hfs-6 on alfa 147 jtd

[rapidello]

how i can connect the yellow cable to the ecu?
i don't know what pin i must connect


i'm sorry for my english....

do you have an intalian insctuction?

[rapidello]

nothing?

[Richard L]

Sorry for ther late reply.

The HFS-6 is nor t configured for diesel engine. I can help you if I can get some informayion of the Electronic Fuel Control unit.

Can I ask who sold this system to you?


Richard

[rapidello]

Sorry for ther late reply.

The HFS-6 is nor t configured for diesel engine. I can help you if I can get some informayion of the Electronic Fuel Control unit.

Can I ask who sold this system to you?


Richard

The italian national supplier "prometeus".

I will give you in a few day the layout of edc15c7

Ihope you can help me.

[Richard L]

Thanks for supplier's information.

The HFS-6 can be configured to read common rail diesel injection signal. I just need to know the ECU's pinout so that I can draw a specific diagram for your car.

Richard

[rapidello]

Centralina di iniezione Common Rail EDC-15C7
E' montata nell'abitacolo sul fianchetto lato passeggero. La centralina ? del tipo "flash e.p.r.o.m." cio? riprogrammabile dall'esterno
senza intervenire sull'hardware.
La centralina di iniezione ha integrato il sensore pressione assoluta.
Pin-out
1, Massa
2, Massa
3, Massa
4, Alimentazione attuatori
5, Alimentazione iniettori/ECU
6, Non collegato
7, Non collegato
8, Non collegato
9, Non collegato
10, Non collegato
11, Immobilizer
12, Non collegato
13, Teleruttore principale
14, Spia candelette
15, Attuatore elettrovalvola farfalla per controllo allo spegnimento
16, Attuatore E.G.R.
17, Attuatore elettrovalvola VGT
18, Teleruttore condizionatore
19, Richiesta inserimento elettroventole 2? velocit?
20, Richiesta inserimento elettroventole 1? velocit?
21, Spia ChecK Engine
22, Attivazione candelette
23, Non collegato
24, Teleruttore elettropompa combustibile
25, Non collegato
26, Non collegato
27, Non collegato
28, Non collegato
29, Non collegato
30, Non collegato
31, Non collegato
32, Non collegato
33, Non collegato
34, Non collegato
35, Non collegato
36, Non collegato
37, Non collegato
38, Non collegato
39, Non collegato
40, Non collegato
41, Non collegato
42, Non collegato
43, Non collegato
44, Non collegato
45, Non collegato
46, Non collegato
47, Segnale giri per quadro
48, Linea K
49, Segnale velocit? vettura
50, Non collegato
51, Quadrinary on
52, Trinary on
53, Non collegato
54, Non collegato
55, Non collegato
56, Non collegato
57, Non collegato
58, Key sense
59, Segnale interruttore freno
60, Richiesta inserimento condizionatore
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61, Interruttore pedale frizione
62, Diagnosi candellette
63, Non collegato
64, Non collegato
65, Non collegato
66, Non collegato
67, Non collegato
68, Non collegato
69, Non collegato
70, Non collegato
71, Non collegato
72, Non collegato
73, Non collegato
74, Non collegato
75, Non collegato
76, Massa pedale acceleratore 1
77, Segnale pedale acceleratore 1
78, Alimentazione pedale acceleratore 1
79, Massa pedale acceleratore 2
80, Segnale pedale acceleratore 2
81, Alimentazione pedale acceleratore 2
82, Sensore temperatura combustibile - pin 1
83, Sensore temperatura combustibile - pin 2
84, Sensore temperatura acqua - pin 1
85, Sensore temperatura acqua - pin 2
86, Misuratore portata aria - pin 1
87, Non collegato
88, Misuratore portata aria - pin 3
89, Misuratore portata aria - pin 5
90, Sensore pressione combustibile - pin 3
91, Sensore pressione combustibile - pin 2
92, Sensore pressione combustibile - pin 1
93, Sensore pressione di sovralimentazione - pin 1
94, Sensore pressione di sovralimentazione - pin 3
95, Sensore pressione di sovralimentazione - pin 2
96, Non collegato
97, Misuratore portata aria - pin 4
98, Non collegato
99, Sensore di giri - pin 1
100, Sensore di giri - pin 2
101, Sensore di giri - pin 3
102, Sensore di fase alimentazione
103, Sensore di fase - pin 1
104, Sensore di fase - pin 2
105, Non collegato
106, Non collegato
107, Non collegato
108, Regolatore pressione gasolio
109, Regolatore pressione gasolio
110, Spia temperatura acqua
111, Teleruttore filtro gasolio
112, Non collegato
113, Non collegato
114, Comando iniettore cilindro 4
115, Comando iniettore cilindro 5 (solo per 5 cilindri collegato)
116, Non collegato
117, Comune iniettori cilindri 1-2
118, Comune iniettori cilindri 3-4-5
119, Comando iniettore cilindro 1
120, Comando iniettore cilindro 2
121, Comando iniettore cilindro 3
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[rapidello]

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[Richard L]

This is great information. I can now move forward. Can you please pm me you address so that I can sedn you the re-configured contyroller to work with your car.

As I do not read Italian, can you please tell me the pin numbers for

1. Fuel injector + (114-121?)
2. Fuel injector - (114-121?)
3. +12V supply (constant)
4. Ign SW (switched)
5. Ground (0v)
6. Common rail pressure sensor

[Prometeus]

Rapidello sono qui
Richard I'm here

I'll try to post translation in email first and then to forum :)

People of UK get prepared: next week I'll know if I'll be in UK for Brighton Speed Trials ehehehehe I'll bring my fiat punto overboosted :twisted: (even not :lol: )

[Prometeus]

Ok Let's Start

- Italian -
English

- Centralina di iniezione Common Rail EDC-15C7 -
ECU for Common Rail EDC 15C7

- E' montata nell'abitacolo sul fianchetto lato passeggero. -
Sited on the UK Driver side.

- La centralina ? del tipo "flash e.p.r.o.m." cio? riprogrammabile dall'esterno senza intervenire sull'hardware. -
Flash Eprom with external reprogramming without hardwares

- La centralina di iniezione ha integrato il sensore pressione assoluta. -
Injection EC has an absolute pressure sensor (we might need another boost - chip)

Pin-out
1, Massa
2, Massa
3, Massa
1 - 2 - 3 Ground

4, Alimentazione attuatori
Actuators Signal POS

5, Alimentazione iniettori/ECU
Injector Signal POS

6, Non collegato
7, Non collegato
8, Non collegato
9, Non collegato
10, Non collegato
Not Used

11, Immobilizer
Guess what :roll:

12, Non collegato
Not Used

13, Teleruttore principale
Main Ignition Switch

14, Spia candelette
Battery Lamp Candle Power led (?)

15, Attuatore elettrovalvola farfalla per controllo allo spegnimento
Actuators Electrovalve Control Switching Off.

16, Attuatore E.G.R.
E.G.R. Actuator

17, Attuatore elettrovalvola VGT
VGT Electrovalve Actuator (domanda x rapidello cos'? il VGT?)

18, Teleruttore condizionatore
Incar air conditioning switcher

19, Richiesta inserimento elettroventole 2? velocit?
Incar air conditioning Speed 2

20, Richiesta inserimento elettroventole 1? velocit?
Incar air conditioning Speed 1

21, Spia ChecK Engine
Check Engine Lamp

22, Attivazione candelette
Candle Power Activation

23, Non collegato
Not Used

24, Teleruttore elettropompa combustibile
Diesel Electropump Switcher

25, Non collegato
26, Non collegato
27, Non collegato
28, Non collegato
29, Non collegato
30, Non collegato
31, Non collegato
32, Non collegato
33, Non collegato
34, Non collegato
35, Non collegato
36, Non collegato
37, Non collegato
38, Non collegato
39, Non collegato
40, Non collegato
41, Non collegato
42, Non collegato
43, Non collegato
44, Non collegato
45, Non collegato
46, Non collegato
Not Used

47, Segnale giri per quadro
Rpm Signal for RPM Clock (behind the Steering)

48, Linea K
K Line (?)

49, Segnale velocit? vettura
Speed Car Signal

50, Non collegato
Not Used

51, Quadrinary on

52, Trinary on

53, Non collegato
54, Non collegato
55, Non collegato
56, Non collegato
57, Non collegato
Not Used

58, Key sense
Key Sense (?)

59, Segnale interruttore freno
HandBrake Signal

60, Richiesta inserimento condizionatore
Incar Airconditioning Auto

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61, Interruttore pedale frizione
Clutch Switcher

62, Diagnosi candelette
Candle Power Diagnostic

63, Non collegato
64, Non collegato
65, Non collegato
66, Non collegato
67, Non collegato
68, Non collegato
69, Non collegato
70, Non collegato
71, Non collegato
72, Non collegato
73, Non collegato
74, Non collegato
75, Non collegato
Not Used

76, Massa pedale acceleratore 1
Ground 1 for Accelerator Pedal

77, Segnale pedale acceleratore 1
Signal 1 for Acceleretor Pedal

78, Alimentazione pedale acceleratore 1
Power Supply for Accelerator 1

79, Massa pedale acceleratore 2
Ground 2 for Accelerator Pedal

80, Segnale pedale acceleratore 2
Signal 2 for Accelerator Pedal

81, Alimentazione pedale acceleratore 2
Power Supply 2 for Accelerator Pedal

82, Sensore temperatura combustibile - pin 1
Diesel Temperature Sensor - pin 1

83, Sensore temperatura combustibile - pin 2
Diesel Temperature Sensor - pin 2

84, Sensore temperatura acqua - pin 1
Water Temperature Sensor - pin 1

85, Sensore temperatura acqua - pin 2
Water Temperature Sensor - pin 2

86, Misuratore portata aria - pin 1
Air Mass Counter - pin 1

87, Non collegato
Not Used

88, Misuratore portata aria - pin 3
89, Misuratore portata aria - pin 5
Air Flow Counter - pin 3 - pin 5

90, Sensore pressione combustibile - pin 3
91, Sensore pressione combustibile - pin 2
92, Sensore pressione combustibile - pin 1
Diesel Pressure Sensor - pin 3 - pin 2 - pin 1

93, Sensore pressione di sovralimentazione - pin 1
94, Sensore pressione di sovralimentazione - pin 3
95, Sensore pressione di sovralimentazione - pin 2
Boost Pressure Sensor - pin 1 - pin 2 - pin 3
(TOUCH DOWN :D Here's MAP Sensor)

96, Non collegato
Not used

97, Misuratore portata aria - pin 4
Air Flow Counter - pin 4

98, Non collegato
Not Used

99, Sensore di giri - pin 1
100, Sensore di giri - pin 2
101, Sensore di giri - pin 3
RPM Sensor - pin 1 - pin 2 - pin 3

102, Sensore di fase alimentazione
Power Supply Sensor

103, Sensore di fase - pin 1
104, Sensore di fase - pin 2
Power Supply Sensor - pin 1 - pin 2

105, Non collegato
106, Non collegato
107, Non collegato
Not Used

108, Regolatore pressione gasolio
109, Regolatore pressione gasolio
Diesel Boost Controller

110, Spia temperatura acqua
Water Temperature Light

111, Teleruttore filtro gasolio
Diesel Filter Switcher

112, Non collegato
113, Non collegato
Not Used

114, Comando iniettore cilindro 4
Injector 4 Controller

115, Comando iniettore cilindro 5 (solo per 5 cilindri collegato)
Injector 5 Controller ( does not exist Inj 5)

116, Non collegato
Not Used

117, Comune iniettori cilindri 1-2
Common Signal Cylinders 1 - 2

118, Comune iniettori cilindri 3-4-5
Common Signal Injectors 3 - 4 - (5)

119, Comando iniettore cilindro 1
Injector 1 Controller

120, Comando iniettore cilindro 2
Injector 2 Controller

121, Comando iniettore cilindro 3
Injector 3 Controller

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That's All Folks (More or Less) :)

x Rapidello, se possibile

Avremmo bisogno di maggiori informazioni e spiegazioni per le linee numero:
17 - VGT
48 - Linea K
58 - Key Sense

in pratica di cosa si tratterebbero.
Grazie

Richard hope to have been very useful informations.

[Richard L]

Thank you Prometeus, your Italian is very good. :lol:

[rapidello]

news?

What do you want know about ecu?

[rapidello]

vgt is the controller of vnt turbo.

[Prometeus]

Thank you Prometeus, your Italian is very good. :lol:

:roll: I guess your chinese too maybe one day I'll be in Shanghai :roll: :lol: :wink:

[Richard L]

I am reconfiguring a controller for you now. How can I send the system to you, I believe postage system is not very reliable in Italy. Perhaps I send it via D.

D, what do you think, shall I send it directly to Rapidello?

R

[rapidello]

if you wat send to prometeus is not a problem,so i can take back my controller....

if you want, probably i can send tomorrow the english scheme of edc15c7....from original datasheet fiat/alfa romeo catalogue...

[Richard L]

Are you long way from Prometeus? If the English version is in pdf, can you email it to me as an attachment? richard@aquamist.co.uk

[rapidello]

COMPONENT DESCRIPTIONS
Injection control unit (EDC-15C Common Rail)
It is fitted to the right side of the engine bay. The control unit is the 'flash EPROM' type, i.e. reprogrammable from the outside without intervening on the hardware.

The injection control unit integrates the absolute pressure sensor.

PINS





1 - Earth

2 - Earth

3 - Earth

4 - Actuator supply

5 - Injector/ECU supply

6 - Not connected

7 - Not connected

8 - Not connected

9 - Fast FL CAN line

10 - Fast FL CAN line

11 - Immobilizer

12 - Not connected

13 - Injection relay

14 - Not connected

15 - Throttle solenoid actuator for control on deactivation

16 - E.G.R. actuator

17 - VGT solenoid actuator

18 - Air conditioner relay

19 - Request to switch on fans 2nd speed

20 - Request to switch on fans 1st speed

21 - Injection warning light

22 - Spark plug activation

23 - Fuel filter relay

24 - Fuel pump relay

25 - Not connected

26 - Not connected

27 - Not connected

28 - C-CAN L

29 - C-CAN H

30 - Not connected

31 - Not connected

32 - Not connected

33 - Not connected

34 - Not connected

35 - Not connected

36 - Not connected

37 - Not connected

38 - Not connected

39 - Not connected

40 - Not connected

41- Not connected

42 - Not connected

43, Not connected

44, Not connected

45, Not connected

46, Not connected

47, Not connected

48, K line

49, Not connected

50, Not connected

51, Quadrinary on

52, Trinary on

53, Cruise control

54, Brake switch signal (released)

55, Cruise control

56, Cruise control

57, Cruise control

58, Key sense

59, Brake switch signal (pressed0

60, Request to switch on air conditioner

61, Clutch pedal switch

62, Spark plug fault diagnosis

63, Not connected

64, Not connected

65, Not connected

66, Not connected

67, Not connected

68, Not connected

69, Not connected

70, Not connected

71, Not connected

72, Not connected

73, Not connected

74, Not connected

75, Not connected

76, Accelerator 1 pedal earth

77, Accelerator 1 pedal

78, Accelerator 1 pedal power supply

79, Accelerator 2 pedal earth

80, Accelerator 2 pedal

81, Accelerator 2 pedal power supply

82, Fuel temperature sensor - pin 1

83, Fuel temperature sensor - pin 2

84, Water temperature sensor - pin 1

85, Water temperature sensor - pin 2

86, Air flow meter - pin 1

87, Not connected

88, Air flow meter - pin 3

89, Air flow meter - pin 5

90, Fuel pressure sensor - pin 3

91, Fuel pressure sensor - pin 2

92, Fuel pressure sensor - pin 1

93, Turbocharging pressure sensor - pin 1

94, Turbocharging pressure sensor - pin 3

95, Turbocharging pressure sensor - pin 2

96, Not connected

97, Air flow meter - pin 4

98, Engine oil pressure switch

99, Rpm sensor - pin 1

100, Rpm sensor - pin 2

101, Not connected

102, Timing sensor - pin 1

103, Timing sensor - pin 2

104, Timing sensor - pin 3

105, Swirl position feed back

106, Not connected

107, Not connected

108, Diesel pressure regulator

109, Diesel pressure regulator

110, Not connected

111, Not connected

112, Not connected

113, Not connected

114, Cylinder 4 injector control

115, Not connected

116, Not connected

117, Cylinders 1-2 injectors shared

118, Cylinder 3-4 injector common

119, Cylinder 1 injector control

120, Cylinder 2 injector control

121, Cylinder 3 injector control

[Richard L]

Fantastic ! Just I what is needed. Peometeus has done a great job translating it.

How far are you away from prometeous?

[rapidello]

Are you long way from Prometeus?

no,only 50 km...... :wink:


2 iniector of 0,5 are good for my application? my 147 wil be about 250 hp

[Richard L]

So near. Good.

Are you planning to run 100% water, M50/W50 or 100% methanol?

[rapidello]

i prefer 100% water, or 50-50....what do you reccomend?



if you want also edc16 (alfa 147 Mjet 16v)pin-out i can give you...

[Richard L]

I think 50/50 is good for winter and summer.

Is edc16 (alfa 147 Mjet 15V) a common rail diesel? I like the wiring diaghram also please. It is good information for the future.

[rapidello]

I think 50/50 is good for winter and summer.

Is edc16 (alfa 147 Mjet 15V) a common rail diesel? I like the wiring diaghram also please. It is good information for the future.
yes, is common rail....multijet.


my ecu is edc15, unijet common rail..... so you think that 2 injector 0,5 are good for my application?

If you send prometeus the new controller,can you pre-setting? So i can't change the trimmer set?

Thank you

If i use sometime only 100% water will be a problem?

[rapidello]

this is edc16 (not for me, only for you)


CONNECTOR A

1, Cylinder 3 injector positive

2, Cylinder 2 injector positive

3, Not connected

4, Fuel pressure regulator positive

5, Not connected

6, Not connected

7, Not connected

8, Fuel pressure sensor negative

9, Not connected

10, Not connected

11, Timing sensor positive

12, Engine rpm sensor negative

13, Supercharging sensor positive

14, Not connected

15, Turbo pressure electro-pneumatic valve negative

16, Cylinder 1 injector positive

17, Cylinder 4 injector positive

18, Not connected

19, Not connected

20, Timing sensor negative

21, Not connected

22, Not connected

23, Intake air temperature and supercharging pressure sensor negative

24, Not connected

25, Not connected

26, Not connected

27, Engine rpm sensor positive

28, Fuel pressure sensor positive

29, Flow meter positive

30, Not connected

31, Cylinder 2 injector negative

32, Not connected

33, Cylinder 4 injector negative

34, Fuel pressure regulator negative

35, Insufficient engine oil pressure sensor signal

36, Not connected

37, Air temperature sensor on flow meter signal

38, Not connected

39, Not connected

40, Supercharging sensor signal

41, Coolant temperature sensor negative

42, Air flow meter signal

43, Fuel pressure sensor signal

44, Flow meter negative

45, Not connected

46, Cylinder 3 injector negative

47, Cylinder 1 injector negative

48, Not connected

49, Not connected

50, Timing sensor signal

51, Not connected

52, Not connected

53, Intake air temperature sensor signal

54, Not connected

55, Not connected

56, Not connected

57, Not connected

58, Coolant temperature sensor signal

59, Cut out throttle solenoid valve actuator negative

60, EGR solenoid valve negative

CONNECTOR B

1, Power supply from main relay

2, Control unit earth

3, Not connected

4, Control unit earth

5, Main relay power supply

6, Control unit earth

7, Not connected

8, Accelerator pedal potentiometer track 2 signal

9, Accelerator pedal potentiometer track 1 signal

10, Fuel temperature signal negative

11, Fuel temperature sensor signal

12, Not connected

13, Not connected

14, Not connected

15, Not connected

16, Not connected

17, Brake pedal switch signal

18, Not connected

19, Not connected

20, Not connected

21, Not connected

22, Not connected

23, Not connected

24, Not connected

25, Line K

26, Not connected

27, Not connected

28, Key ON signal

29, Air conditioning compressor relay

30, Accelerator pedal potentiometer track 1 negative

31, Accelerator pedal potentiometer track 2 signal

32, Not connected

33, Not connected

34, Not connected

35, Not connected

36, Not connected

37, Not connected

38, Cruise Control resume

39, Not connected

40, Not connected

41, Not connected

42, Quadinary signal

43, Not connected

44, Not connected

45, Accelerator pedal potentiometer track 1 positive

46, Accelerator pedal potentiometer track 2 positive

47, Immobilizer line W

48, Engien rpm signal output to robotized gearbox

49, Not connected

50, Not connected

51, Not connected

52, Feedback signal from heater plugs control unit

53, Not connected

54, Request to engage climate control from control button

55, Not connected

56, Cruise Control positive

57, Not connected

58, Not connected

59, Not connected

60, Not connected

61, Low C-CAN from ABS control unit

62, High C-CAN from ABS control unit

63, Not connected

64, Not connected

65, Not connected

66, Not connected

67, Not connected

68, Fuel filter heater relay operation

69, Engine cooling fan 2nd speed engagement relay

70, Not connected

71, MIL warning light

72, Main relay activation

73, Not connected

74, Water in fuel filter signal

75, Not connected

76, Not connected

77, Cruise control on/off

78, Signal for cruise control speed decrease

79, Clutch switch signal

80, Brake pedal 2nd switch signal (only for versions with cruise control)

81, Quadinary signal

82, Not connected

83, Low C CAN to body computer

84, High C CAN to body computer

85, Not connected

86, Not connected

87, Not connected

88, Not connected

89, Not connected

90, Engine cooling fan 1st speed engagement relay

91, Fuel pump relay operation

92, Not connected

93, Heater plugs engagement


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[Richard L]

Thank you for the diagram, it wil be very useful for the next alfa.

I have a question, I assume both ECUs are for diesel applications. There seemed to be two type of common rail diesel. what is the difference between uni-jet and multi-jet.

As regarding the trimmer of the re-configured HFS-6, you con use all the trimmers and scaling options. I just need to match the system to match and read the pulses of the diesel injectors. The pulsewidth is very short. Using water is find but use less due to the higher latent heat value than methanol.

The HFS-6 can read the following, but require some signal re-conditioning:

- Common rail diesel injector (high rail pressure - most diesel)
- Common rail gasoline injector (high rail pressure - VW, Audi, PSA)
- Gasoline direct injection with solenoid actuator
- Gasoline direct injection with piezo actuator (new BMW)

The trend is changing very fast - difficult to keep up with this new Direct injection technology.

[rapidello]

Uni-jet(edc15), make a single injection on cycle,the first tipe of common rail....

multijet(using edc16) make multiple injection...so decrease diesel consumpion, decrease noise and decrease air pollution.


do you need anything else to configure controller?
i hope with the pin-out of ecu you can set up all...

[Prometeus]

He's next to my address, should be same. Anyway as you prefer. D

But such kind of car should take part to Brighton Speed Trials don't you agree Richard? :D

Rapidello non ci sono problemi a viaggiare con solo l'acqua. Il metanolo porta un miglioramento delle prestazioni ben visibile sui motori diesel, non altri. Tutto qui.

I'll be in Brighton for Speed Trials; surely be in from Friday. I'm too lazy for reserving a room now. 8 ? Flightfare are good enough to be spent online these times :twisted:... London Luton Of Course :lol:

[Richard L]

The HFS-6 has a unique line for FSi and Diesel with electronic injector. It is the yellow wire on the yellow RJ45 harness.

Since we are detecting the pulse width of injector, it really doesn't matter how many injection events are there per cycle. As I read from other publications, the multi-jet has three injection events, covering idle, light load and full load.

I think I have most of the information need to get the system working for your application. I don't have one more question. Can I assume the uni-jet vary the fuel rail pressure. I may need you to locate this signal and feed it to the blue wire of the yellow harness to purpose of full signal integration. I am sure I can find the correct pinout from your previous emails.

Other basic connection such as switched +12v (ignition key position#2 - pre-cranking). It would be nice to know which pin of the ECU so that the HFS-6 can get every signal from the ECU. (unfortunately it is in the engine bay rather inside the car). I trust you can splice in the wires and provide some water proofing work afterwards.

[rapidello]

if you have a problem to configure controller,i can use the component of hfs-5...or an easy system like 1s ? (now i use an 1s and is quite good)

can't you use only map sensor? without injition signal?

[rapidello]

do you have an italian instruction guide of hfs-5 or hfs-6?

[Richard L]

The HFS-6 can run on MAP sensor as shipped. Just change the jumper link from PWM to MPS, just need the mAP senasor signal. I like to use the fuel flowe signal so that the water flow id directly proportional to fuel.

If the flow is based on pressure only, you will be injecting water all the time because a turbo diesel reaches full boost very quickly, even a medium load.

You can play with the MPS mode on the system at your procession, let me know, may be it is perfectly OK.

[Richard L]

do you have an italian instruction guide of hfs-5 or hfs-6?

I am afraid I don't, I was hoping D might do it for me.

Here is the pdf version in English:

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/V10/HFS-5-v10w.pdf (HFS-5)
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS6/HFS-6-3w.pdf (HFS-6)

[rapidello]

i can traslate in the future if you want....

now i wait for you configure the new controllor....

only if we have problem i will use mps...

thank you...

[Richard L]

Thanks for the offer, but it is not necessary as most Italians read English. Only a few English reads Italian!

I shouldn't think I have problem interpreting the diesel injection signal, The HFS-6 been successful wiht the Gaslsoline direct injection signal. Because thereare so many different types of direction system out there, I need to make certain before configurating them.

[Prometeus]

I am actually translating... :roll:

Richard, I'll get a visit to Torness... :D I'll try to sell them a system... guess which :lol:

[Richard L]

Let me guess, Koenigsegg?

[Prometeus]

You never miss a Saxon shotrace car :lol:



.... I have problem interpreting ... wiht the Gaslsoline....

I'll keep them informed... if problems are persisting I'll ask for much more ethanol :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

[rapidello]

news?

[Richard L]

A days or twos, final tests wil be done by this week.

[Richard L]

It is done and will be shipped tomorrow. Whwn you get the unit, please use the FSI (yellow) wire on the yellow connector.

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS6/H6-147.jpg

[rapidello]

It is done and will be shipped tomorrow. Whwn you get the unit, please use the FSI (yellow) wire on the yellow connector.

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS6/H6-147.jpg

very goood..... :lol:

for the iniector.....2 x 0.4mm are good for my use?

[Prometeus]

Personalized ECU.... wow :)

[Richard L]

I need to be specific. There are just too many diesel injection systems around.

[Richard L]

It is done and will be shipped tomorrow. Whwn you get the unit, please use the FSI (yellow) wire on the yellow connector.

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS6/H6-147.jpg

very goood..... :lol:

for the iniector.....2 x 0.4mm are good for my use?

I think 2x 0.4mm is a good start. Are you running 100% methanol?

[rapidello]

It is done and will be shipped tomorrow. Whwn you get the unit, please use the FSI (yellow) wire on the yellow connector.

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS6/H6-147.jpg

very goood..... :lol:

for the iniector.....2 x 0.4mm are good for my use?

I think 2x 0.4mm is a good start. Are you running 100% methanol?

100% h20 or 50%-50%

[Richard L]

I think the following diagram is reasonably accurate, please find out which pin of the three pins is the fuel pressure signal (blue wire).

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS6/Alfa/alfa147jtd.gif

[Prometeus]

:cool: an ancient jamaican said: "Let's do that again" :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

This is a great job Richard. The system is here in warehouse in Zelo B.P. since last Thursday.

[rapidello]

very good....

so i can use 2 iniector 4mm with 50-50%?

[Prometeus]

I think that it is the best choice :wink: ...

[rapidello]

next week i hope to install hfs-6.....i had some problem with the engine in the previous week....

for the regolation of the trimmer are some reccomend?

do you have install hfs-6 on other diesel engine?

[Richard L]

I look forward to your installation.

We have not heard any HFS-6 install directly on any diesel yet, but there mighr be some that we do not know.

I would leave everything as default.

[yan.ko]

Hi guys, anything new with Aquamist HFS-6 on 8V JTD?

[Richard L]

For diesel application, the HFS-3 have a more advanced fuel IDC decoder than the HFS-6.