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Richard L 04-02-2011 12:15 AM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
We have decided ship free to US and Australia. Price will be as posted on the forum.

In USD:
HFS-3 + summer bundle 735 + 120 = 855 (non GB price = 735 + 299 + 85 shipping) = 1119.
HFS-6 + Summer bundle 945 +120 = 1065 (non GB price = 945 + 299 + 85 shipping) = 1329.

Richard

FD-KAI 04-02-2011 01:07 AM

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thanks Richard...free P&H..love you long time...;-) lol

RX72NR 04-02-2011 12:45 PM

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Thank you! Richard, You're awesome.

remydrm 04-02-2011 11:57 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Hi Richard,

I'm on the list for HFS-3 + Summer. I'm not sure if this is the right kit for my needs and if I should upgrade to the HFS-6 + Summer instead.

My setup:
2x1000cc primary, 4x1000cc secondary, 50/50 water to methanol, 15-20psi boost

All opinions will be greatly appreciated!

Rawbz08 05-02-2011 09:08 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Hey Richard I am officially registered.

Richard L 06-02-2011 12:17 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Updated...

1. Drunkengimp (summer + HFS6)
2. remydrm (summer + HFS3)
3. trainwreck517 (summer alone)
4. MaD^94Rx7 (summer+HFS6)
5. r2omega (summer +HFS6)
6. FD-KAI (summer + HFS6)
7. RX72NR (summer + HFS6)
8. riprx7 (summer + HFS6)
9. browndog9 (summer + HFS6)
10. Supernaut (summer + ?)
11. Gringo Grande (summer + ?)
12. HIZOKU (?? + HFS6) to be confirmed
13. Uleepera (summer + ?) has problems joining the site... (please try again now)
14. Rawbz08 (summer+hfs-6) Please sign in so that I can contact you.

Richard L 06-02-2011 12:18 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rawbz08 (Post 14329)
Hey Richard I am officially registered.

Welcome to the forum. We can do with more rotary members!

Richard

Danny@respecG 07-02-2011 12:36 AM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Richard,

I have been reading about AI all day. My set up is 850cc primaries and 1680cc secondaries. What would you recommend for my set up? Im interested in the GB, but would like more info as to my application.

-Danny-

heliox 07-02-2011 10:36 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Hi All,

I found out about this via a post on FB so am new here today.
I have a 1977 RX3 with a Series 6 13B pulsing under the bonnet, I think the injectors are standard but am running a large diesel turbo, dont ask me numbers but about 14psi boost and an Apexi FC. I would appreciate info on which unit would be better for me to purchase HSF3 or HSF6 aong with the summer.
I am keen to get in on the group order and thankful for any info that will help me make my final decision.

Keep the rubber on the road
Cheers
Darren

Richard L 07-02-2011 11:23 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny@respecG (Post 14346)
Richard,

I have been reading about AI all day. My set up is 850cc primaries and 1680cc secondaries. What would you recommend for my set up? Im interested in the GB, but would like more info as to my application.

-Danny-

You can use either system, If you vary your boost a lot, the HFS-6 is more suitable as it has a manifold pressure compensation input channel. The system basically increases the meth flow in relationship to the manifold pressure.

The HFS-3 can also do this but it is pre-defined, 70% IDC and 30% manifold pressure.

If you are running below 15psi, it makes little difference, at least less significant between the two systems.

What boost are you running?

Parrillizer 09-02-2011 03:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard L (Post 14338)
Updated...

1. Drunkengimp (summer + HFS6)
2. remydrm (summer + HFS3)
3. trainwreck517 (summer alone)
4. MaD^94Rx7 (summer+HFS6)
5. r2omega (summer +HFS6)
6. FD-KAI (summer + HFS6)
7. RX72NR (summer + HFS6)
8. riprx7 (summer + HFS6)
9. browndog9 (summer + HFS6)
10. Supernaut (summer + ?)
11. Gringo Grande (summer + ?)
12. HIZOKU (?? + HFS6) to be confirmed
13. Uleepera (summer + ?) has problems joining the site... (please try again now)
14. Rawbz08 (summer+hfs-6) Please sign in so that I can contact you.

Hey there I'm new to the forum. Jeff at Howerton Engineering told me about this GB. am already running an HFS-3 and am interested in the summer. Is this going to be for the V3 version that will interface with the HFS user port I read about farther up?

Put me down for a summer and any harnesses needed to integrate it with the HFS-3.

Richard L 09-02-2011 07:29 PM

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The summer v3 will have a special H3-harness that plug straight into the H3. The wiring should be very simple. H6-harness will be supplied for those who order the H6/summer bundle.

In your case, I will supply a summer/H3-harness for you. There will be instructions with the summer.

The older summer v2 is quite complicated to wire up.

HIZOKU 10-02-2011 06:33 AM

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Im out im getting my Kit via MRT in aust

Richard L 10-02-2011 09:04 AM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
MRT and I will give your support either way. I think getting it from MRT will be sooner as you do not need the summer.

Richard

Richard L 10-02-2011 09:07 AM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Parrillizer (Post 14361)
Hey there I'm new to the forum. Jeff at Howerton Engineering told me about this GB. am already running an HFS-3 and am interested in the summer. Is this going to be for the V3 version that will interface with the HFS user port I read about farther up?

Put me down for a summer and any harnesses needed to integrate it with the HFS-3.

There will be special harness for HFS-3 and HFS-6. No more complicated wiring as the Version 2 (originally designed to interface with the older kit such as HFS1 and HFS-5).

It will be very straight forward.

Richard

HIZOKU 10-02-2011 09:43 AM

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Nah just found out they don't have stock yet so i might just get it from you Richard do you do paypal or credit card

Parrillizer 10-02-2011 05:27 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard L (Post 14370)
There will be special harness for HFS-3 and HFS-6. No more complicated wiring as the Version 2 (originally designed to interface with the older kit such as HFS1 and HFS-5).

It will be very straight forward.

Richard

Thanks Richard, that sounds great I am really interested in getting one of these.

Another question:
The summer is designed to work with different sized primary and secondary injectors and combine each injector IDC channel into a single summed IDC signal that the HFS uses to meter H20/CH4O delivery so that it is kept at a constant ratio to the vehicle's fuel delivery rate correct? How do you adjust the summer so that each IDC input from the two injector channels correctly correlates to the percentage each channel is contributing to total fuel delivery?

Thanks in advance

remydrm 11-02-2011 01:28 AM

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Hi Richard,

What is the time-line looking like for these kits? I'm planning my build around the delivery of parts.

In a previous post you said the advantage of the HFS-6 over the HFS-3 is when using 100% methanol or when varying boost often (>15lbs).

Did I read that correctly? I ask because I will never run 100% methanol and I'm still trying not to make the wrong decision between the 2 kits available. My boost levels will be between 15-20lbs.

Thanks again!!!

Massi

FD-KAI 11-02-2011 08:34 PM

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15 folks lined up 5 more to go c'mon get on it...c**ts, don't miss this opportunity..

1. Drunkengimp (summer + HFS6)
2. remydrm (summer + HFS3)
3. trainwreck517 (summer alone)
4. MaD^94Rx7 (summer+HFS6)
5. r2omega (summer +HFS6)
6. FD-KAI (summer + HFS6)
7. RX72NR (summer + HFS6)
8. riprx7 (summer + HFS6)
9. browndog9 (summer + HFS6)
10. Supernaut (summer + ?)
11. Gringo Grande (summer + ?)
12. HIZOKU (?? + HFS6) to be confirmed
13. Uleepera (summer + ?) has problems joining the site... (please try again now)
14. Rawbz08 (summer+hfs-6) Please sign in so that I can contact you.
15. Parrillizer (summer only..yes??)

Rawbz08 14-02-2011 12:29 AM

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Well it looks like the first 15 went quick. Are we just waiting on 5 more to kick them off?

Looksamc 14-02-2011 04:11 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Hi Chaps,

i'm new here and this is my first post so hello! to you all. Can you please put me down for a (HFS3 + summer ) For 95 RX7 FD3S and any additional wiring I may need thanks. :D

15 folks lined up 5 more to go c'mon get on it...c**ts, don't miss this opportunity..

1. Drunkengimp (summer + HFS6)
2. remydrm (summer + HFS3)
3. trainwreck517 (summer alone)
4. MaD^94Rx7 (summer+HFS6)
5. r2omega (summer +HFS6)
6. FD-KAI (summer + HFS6)
7. RX72NR (summer + HFS6)
8. riprx7 (summer + HFS6)
9. browndog9 (summer + HFS6)
10. Supernaut (summer + ?)
11. Gringo Grande (summer + ?)
12. HIZOKU (?? + HFS6) to be confirmed
13. Uleepera (summer + ?) has problems joining the site... (please try again now)
14. Rawbz08 (summer+hfs-6) Please sign in so that I can contact you.
15. Parrillizer (summer only..yes??)
16. Looksamc (HFS3 + summer)

Richard L 14-02-2011 10:39 PM

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At last some one in UK!

MaD^94Rx7 15-02-2011 03:32 PM

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Hi Richard hows the progress on the summer going?

Richard L 16-02-2011 12:25 PM

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I have decided to go for a complete design update to the version two. The version three to the HFS-3 and HFS-6 will be childs play. I am still working on it and still intending to meet the target date, end of Februay. I may over run a few days, but it is definately worth it.

Richard

Looksamc 16-02-2011 12:39 PM

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Yippeeee!!!!!

MaD^94Rx7 16-02-2011 05:17 PM

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My tuner suggested I wait for the summer if it's 2 weeks from now...
Hopefuly you get it made in time then Richard. Thanks again...

RX72NR 16-02-2011 08:52 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
I'm in no hurry, take your time to do it right! April would fit my budget anyways.

HIZOKU 17-02-2011 05:08 AM

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Alright now that there is a date im fine was a bit confused with everything Also Richard im unsure if you got my last email as my work email server has been on off for the last two days now. but i will go with a blue gauge

and how are payments to be made? paypal? DD? creditcard?

Looksamc 17-02-2011 03:22 PM

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Hi Richard

Could i change my oder to a HFS6 + summer please matey!

Thanks.

Richard L 18-02-2011 08:43 AM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
You can update the list yourself, just copy and paste or use "quote" and edit.

At this stage, you have all the time on the world to reconsider.

Supernaut 22-02-2011 06:12 AM

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Take as much time as you need to make everything perfect Richard! I'll wait!

Richard L 22-02-2011 09:10 AM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
I will do so and keep my time table as well.

FD-KAI 22-02-2011 11:34 PM

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Code:

1. Drunkengimp (summer + HFS6)
2. remydrm (summer + HFS3)
3. trainwreck517 (summer alone)
4. MaD^94Rx7 (summer+HFS6)
5. r2omega (summer +HFS6)
6. FD-KAI (summer + HFS6)
7. RX72NR (summer + HFS6)
8. riprx7 (summer + HFS6)
9. browndog9 (summer + HFS6)
10. Supernaut (summer + ?)
11. Gringo Grande (summer + ?)
12. HIZOKU (?? + HFS6) to be confirmed
13. Uleepera (summer + ?)
14. Rawbz08 (summer+hfs-6)
15. Parrillizer (summer only..yes??)
16. Looksamc (HFS6 + summer) <--updated from HFS3 to 6

4 more to go... Yippie Ki-Yay,

@ Richard, mate i pm'd you :D

HIZOKU 23-02-2011 04:19 AM

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is it 4 more to go or 5 more since im not getting the summer unit ?

goracer 23-02-2011 09:17 AM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
I thought the summer's were discontinued when I purchased the last one over a year ago. Good to see they are back but I only need the water injection kit. Can I still get a group buy discount? I think I want the HFS6 but I can't remember the differences. It's been too long.

HIZOKU 24-02-2011 09:46 AM

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GORACER you should be able to as that is what im getting i believe :D

goracer 24-02-2011 09:30 PM

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Ok, please add :arrow: GoRacer to list
HF-6 (only) :cool:

Richard L 24-02-2011 10:09 PM

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Go racer,

I will update your summer to v3 if you send the old one back to me. No hurry.

Richard

goracer 25-02-2011 11:17 AM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
Oh wow, I didn't even know there was a new version. Thank you! :mrgreen:

Richard L 27-02-2011 09:57 PM

Re: Rotary "Summer" Unit GB interest
 
The last summer module (v2) was designed to work with the HFS-5 (now discontinued).

Since you are purchasing the H3 or H6, it is only most logical way to move forward. With a direct exchange (at no cost), you will have the latest and I have a spare v2 summer for those with an older system who needs a replacement.

It was silly of me selling the last few.

Richard


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