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This example below is of a very relatable engine.... 1998cc 4 cyl 2lt turbo set up for endurance racing, heavily regulated (read: map absolute pressure limited) a few years back to achieve parity to a gibson 600bhp V8 4.2lt engine as used in LMP2 classes around the world. There are not inlet restricted and are simple durable motors that do around 70+ racing hours before a mandated rebuild. This year and last the BOP has jacked up the power a bit to differentiate them from the shitbox LMP2 cars but estimate around ~650bhp is valid, the bespoke race V8 boat anchor engine in the 'Cadillac' was given an air restriction hole increase! thus they could not be passed on the straights anyway..... Mazda finished second just yesterday with this AER Life Racing controlled engine in the back of their DPi Daytona 24 hour car car. Specific power ~165bhp/lt/bar **NOTE: These engines in their final year were making from 740bhp to 780bhp*** https://i.imgur.com/AbuBOvS.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GImKpEy.jpg Below is the 2020 BOP https://i.imgur.com/C7IVw2Q.jpg https://i.imgur.com/zYoXivk.jpg Added below for Kunts who are a bit backwards and dont understand how to read rules or proper engineering units. Boost and how its worked out is listed below for your reference. https://i.imgur.com/JxOqSaP.jpg |
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https://www.syvecs.com/forum/viewtop...5&p=6826#p6826
^ This is why you need proper probing ! mine v's the 'self proclaimed' best in market, fact v fiction. |
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https://i.imgur.com/wVoq4Cc.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtOWk260sPc Video title says it all, watch and learn, and take note of similar ridiculous half backed 'data' and tests carried out by clowns on the Interwebz/Arsebook etc ............... |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pevXfrULvPk
^Above video^ to show the RR highly honed/developed D4/D5 dash display solution. These have been in constant state of development for last 5 years to point now where its what a dash should be, simple and driver friendly. A dash is useless if it has bullshit colours all over the place making it unreadable let alone in adverse lighting conditions, same for random invalid ill thought out alarms that flash up everywhere when they don't need to be doing so. It taken us years to get these to this point. There are more than 65 different alarms/warnings/change page items that cover all of the basics like sensor limits, ECU actions, state changes and so forth. All of them are simple and logical, all the driver has to do is focus on driving! and only pertinent information will be displayed or changed to that display as and when it is deemed necessary. They are the most legible dash displays you will see, viewable and understandable at a glance, no need to try to quantify seemingly meaningless pages of just numeric data, which is impossible in a race car or high powered road car. Quote:
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Full control of the WI system through the Syvecs indicating 'wiStatus' and its on flow input to control strategies.
https://i.imgur.com/RsQkl1q.jpg |
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The final maths we use if far more complex and developed but you can see it here in action.
Leaking, Blocked, Flow difference (R1 R2 Bank 1 Bank 2), all automated and totally controlled ;) https://i.imgur.com/3UKyNES.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kY6d1tl.jpg |
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Also dedicated maths in Dash gives a wiStatus output to the Syvecs/LifeRacing ECU.
Essentially as what an Aquamist controller does (if you use this feature as we did prior as a control variable to other strategies on the engine) only difference being one point of control with more detail available. The benefits of the RR system is you have individual control per bank on a V or flat engine or in other cases per cylinder/rotor. Means each bank can be calibrated to suit as needed, with full time feedback to the various sub control items. In short, advanced & true full time water injected cars, with no difference to any other sub system on the engine which it needs to run reliably. |
the DON
Here is the RHT sensor, what is current state of play in water injection technology advancements. This the the OG donmega probe showing its versatility for any application you can dream up.
https://i.imgur.com/o0pXYH8.jpg |
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This is how I implement it, bit more advanced than your typical clown on Arsebook post or Gagtube pretending to 'teach' people :)
https://i.imgur.com/u1XOf0N.jpg We obviously do this per combustion chamber, as too is the water injection flow rate per chamber too, all with its own flow meter and feedback systems. |
Dirty Meth Junkie
Don't be a dirty meth junkie
https://i.imgur.com/5q0mJjN.jpg http://www.riceracing.com.au/Donmega_Waterinjection.htm For many decades the only proven way to make engines reliable and durable is water injection, leave the 100% meth alone, its for losers :) |
Why we run water injection to stop this!
https://i.imgur.com/p38EEBI.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCwP76MbVko (video link above) Here is a longer term test on a 2.2lt 4cyl turbo engine running DONMEGA probes. This was at ~550bhp engine power. Fuel was petrol of low octane. Run to test probes, knock control, long term durability and suitability of mechanical specifications. This was 9.0:1 and not running doctored 'pump' petrol laced heavily with toluene As some historical context for real racing engines. Group A Ford Sierra (run at ~550bhp during a 1000km endurance race @ Bathurst) on same map see proof below, needed to run 7.0:1 CR (or lower) . Contrary to the plethora of rubbish on the internet and online 'education' talking heads this is not detonation nor heavy knock, nor pre ignition, its rather what Renault F1 published in papers when developing their turbo engines referred to as 'runaway knock' its of a low order and easily confuses the knock control system as the absolute figures are on the lower spectrum but their frequency confuses the rolling average that sets the base to which the knock threshold then needs to exceed to pull ignition timing. This engine had no associated damage to bearings, rods, head gasket, etc as you would typically associate with 'detonation' or excessive knock, but it did melt a piston and started to show signs on others of that eventually happening to more of them, took a long time to eventuate as well. Hope this helps people out who are interested. The EGT probe is a very useful tool and I hope this first hand experience and detailed analysis shows that, any questions best to send me an email ;) |
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https://www.syvecs.co.uk/forum/viewt...5a9b8&start=40
^ Some information on pump pulses which may benefit people who read this forum. We also have alternate control methods to suit different applications but still using Aquamist supplied pumps, flow meters, etc. |
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ittle live action update:
The above car just ran 10.48 @ 140.41mph, this is a 100% 'street car' set up on road tires pumped at 30psi lol....... no burn outs needed, no semi slicks not drag radials zero weight reductions, just drive off the road and onto an up prepared drag racing track and run. 1680kg weight car as run. All thank to pump petrol/gasoline and RICE RACING water injection technology. |
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Here is link to the car, showing a little about it and squirting related pictures for those who are into that kind of thing
http://www.riceracing.com.au/rides/M...SST_Justin.htm |
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Link to a little discussion on the power of Water Injection and Syvecs control
https://youtu.be/4ULRRQ4ZUcY I do allot of these and list a few different topics pictured below, if anyone wants to check it out feel free, I am not here that often and if you have any direct questions about squirting or Syvecs or getting some of this action for yourself the best way is to email me :) https://i.imgur.com/KiGKVls.jpg |
FAKE NEWS !!!
Be ware of FAKE NEWS !!!
So many years of reading now seeing this rubbish, we just feel it is necessary to debunk this... FACT V FICTION ! https://youtu.be/80AcdZ7WdgI https://i.imgur.com/JvyWBWJ.jpg |
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"Never seen water meth make power!"
So for the naysayers simpletons and morons out there on GagTube looking for knowledge here it is! 11 recorded drag runs all in 10s, more than 10 minutes of run time at full 'on-load' power, all proven with log book records and time slips. NO FAKE NEWS ! Real road car Real performance Real durability https://i.imgur.com/lCVylWM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/GmEHEKu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/gfBoTdI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZMwBrk9.jpg |
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Here is a link that will go live on the 17th December, owner talking about his car using RR WM technology and Syvecs ECU in his Mitsubishi EVOX SST road weapon !
https://www.spreaker.com/user/163209...-justinparis_1 ^ Click on the above ^ |
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https://youtu.be/lRjFvryqgmc
^ above video ^ showing some current technology around heat control on exhaust system related parts, and pictures and detailed description below. Using our own *donmega* EGT probe we check the actual combustion gas temperature on a piece of lagged piping. To see the temperature reduction a couple of fine wire Type k probes are put in various locations some touching right on the outer cover and others less than 1mm away from the surface.......... To finally give it some real work context I held my hand (try not to shake and touch the surface!) about ~20mm away from the outer cover and can be there for unlimited time (very little heat radiated). Some pics https://i.imgur.com/W1ti12u.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pVEWVk5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/6K4YXCq.jpg https://i.imgur.com/brMj2KK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/q8lrx8e.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yp80IX0.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CUDBc05.jpg |
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Nice work Peter. Great info. Going above and beyond always.
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I have a raft of cars running Aquamist main hardware (pump, HSV, flow meter, nozzles etc) on our own Syvecs WMI control box. When time and relevant IP allows will post some up here otherwise as always you can reach around to me and can accommodate you NP.
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https://www.syvecs.co.uk/forum/viewt...2daa4&start=90
^ For latest development updates take a look here for Squirting Technology Many many more cars coming ! As always will continue to lead the way as we have for the last 30 years and for the next 30 Kuntz ! |
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More Squirting Action sneak peak here below
https://i.imgur.com/dOE3qdN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/44BjQRg.jpg |
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