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Old 09-05-2016, 08:52 AM
rotrex rotrex is offline
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Default Re: Timed Duty : Direct Port Injection

According to Dave Walker, owner of Emerald ECU and very exerpeicned dyno operator says no. It makes little to no difference in power. He tried it. It is mainly done for emissions reasons. As your ECU runs a cam phase sensor, it is of no extra cost or effort to do sequential. So no reason to not use it. This will stay a theoretical argument.

If you have trouble finding methanol compatible injectors, you might consider ethanol instead. It makes surprisingly little difference and ethanol compatible injectors are plently around. From a chemistry standpoint, any injector that is fully ethanol compatible should also last with methanol. Worst case buy one, soak in in Methanol in a jar and try if it still works once a month.

If you go for the 350 range, you need huge injectors anyhow. For 350HP on petrol alone you already need 650cc injectors. On e85 more like a 1000cc a minute and with methanol you are heading in the 1300cc/min direction. (Numbers just scaled up, not calculated and for a 4 cylinder engine) your intake valve is open for about 70% of the revolution with the intake stroke for a 270 deg cam. So once you injector duty cycle exceeds 70% you are injecting against a closed valve anyhow. It does not really matter anyhow.

If you want to maximize in cylinder charge cooling from methanol, you need in cylinder direct injection with those nice 150 bar injectors. No more valve wetting. Thing is you still need to carefully position them to minimize the spray hitting the surfaces in the cylinder. Any spray hitting the walls just cools the metal and not the air.
In one of the papers I linked in the literature section of this forum quantifies the effect of this internal cooling by comparing at which IAT a engine starts to knock running either direct injection of port injection. They employed gasoline and ethanol.

If the car is a daily driver, I'd seriously consider a dual fuel system. Run it on petrol and phae over to alcohol or e85 on boost (plus option water, if requiered). Ronin aka Frank Profera did such a dual fuel system with his 680HP Lotus Exige (the Ronin RS 211) running a turbocharged 1.8l 2ZZ-GE, it's "original" engine. He uses isopropanol in a secondary injection system. Ethanol would work as well, but isopropanol is easier to come by in the US in any drug store.
Pothole along on 95 octane and inject the 110 stuff on demand. A little 10l fuel cell should do.
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