waterinjection.info  

Go Back   waterinjection.info > Injection Applications (making it work) > Gasoline Forced-Induction

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-01-2011, 11:53 AM
Jardon Jardon is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13
Default Air leaks and bubbles

I recently replaced the quick fit connectors on the vac side of my 1s kit with compression ones (thanks Richard). I had been getting methanol leaks from the elbow at the tank end and air leaks at the elbow on the pump. This seems to have worked to some extent but I am still getting air in somewhere and there is constantly a bubble hovering at the pump inlet.

The pump is flowing about 20% less than anticipated too (270cc/min with a 1mm jet and 200cc/min with a 0.7mm jet). This was with the pump just above the level of the methanol.

I'm not sure where to look next. Replace the filter? Are there seals in the pump inlet that may be leaking?

I also notice that the 4mm line on the pressurised side will empty - I guess this is due to vacuum in the intake but I am injecting before the throttle plate. I could try a check valve but will this further reduce my flow rate? My peak boost is 1.4 bar so with the reduced flow I reckon I'm close to the limit for proper atomisation (2 bar differential accross the pump?).

Any tips would be appreciated.

Thanks, Huw.
__________________
2002 Volvo V70 T5 SE, MTE custom tune, Owen Developments 19t - ported/polished/Garrett wheels, Ferrita turbo back, 470cc injectors, ported exhaust manifold, Koni FSD shocks, Eibach Prokit springs, IPD sway bars, strut brace, Aquamist 1s methanol injection.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 28-01-2011, 03:57 PM
Jardon Jardon is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13
Default Re: Air leaks and bubbles

So I moved the pump down to the subframe and now it flows 350cc/min (a 30% increase) - Result!!! These pumps really don't like sucking but they blow quite well.

This position below the top of the water/methanol means the pump is always self primed and air leaks/siphoning on the vac side far less likely.

I Recommend experimenting with the position of these pumps - I like how instant the misting is but was disappointed with the flow previously. There is no lag when the system activates - it mists immeadiately with no "dribble". I was considering a larger capacity/"laggier" pump but now problem solved. Thanks Richard if you're reading this.
__________________
2002 Volvo V70 T5 SE, MTE custom tune, Owen Developments 19t - ported/polished/Garrett wheels, Ferrita turbo back, 470cc injectors, ported exhaust manifold, Koni FSD shocks, Eibach Prokit springs, IPD sway bars, strut brace, Aquamist 1s methanol injection.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 16-04-2011, 05:37 PM
Richard L Richard L is offline
Manufacturer sponsor
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: England
Posts: 4,936
Default Re: Air leaks and bubbles

Thanks for the feedback.
__________________
Richard L
aquamist technical support
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 16-04-2011, 08:13 PM
Jardon Jardon is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 13
Default Re: Air leaks and bubbles

No worries - still going strong. No bubbles and performance has never been stronger. Just added a plate diff and bigger intercooler - fun times!
__________________
2002 Volvo V70 T5 SE, MTE custom tune, Owen Developments 19t - ported/polished/Garrett wheels, Ferrita turbo back, 470cc injectors, ported exhaust manifold, Koni FSD shocks, Eibach Prokit springs, IPD sway bars, strut brace, Aquamist 1s methanol injection.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:52 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.