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Old 03-07-2013, 01:26 AM
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Default HFS4 on 996tt

Hi all,

car is 996tt with gt30s turbos, upgrade fuel system 80cc injectors and trying to run in the end about 1.6 bar or more.

Car is running a bit rich even without meth, lambda set point is 0.8 and actual values are 0.78-0.8 most of the time

i tried with W60/M40 on defaul mapping (IDC) and after that W45/M55 on a custom mapping (MPS) and the same result, i see lambda going down to 0.73, engine load gets very high and engine is coughing

I am told i need to start injecting by 7 psi and full at 15 psi, any thoughts ?

thanks a lot

Fadi
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:26 PM
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Richard, can you help me please ? I used a basic kit instead of HFS4 and it works...
Isnt this kit supposed to be plug and play for basic users anyway?
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: HFS4 on 996tt

Based on your is post, running rich is not good especially you injection water/meth on top. Reduce your fuel flow until you are running ~11.8 AFR
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:54 PM
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i used same aquamist pump, meth lines, injectors 2x1.2mm !!! and replaced your controller with a basic on/off boost switch at 10 psi reading boot from the intake and linked to the pump... car is running OK, i see much much better timing, better than with ms109 !!, perfect afr-not running rich anymore, but no iat drop, just slower increase of iat.... but i am able to run much more boost, so the problem is from the controller... are you sure the wiring diagram is correct ?

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Old 03-08-2013, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: HFS4 on 996tt

if you are running 2x 1.2mm jets and see no IAT temperature drop but much better timing, there must be something wrong with the temperature sensors. Send a picture of the jet installation.

Replacing the controller with a boost switch makes the car runs better, so there are really no problem to solve.
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:11 PM
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i bought the most advanced controller from aquamist, not a basic boost switch like 20 years ago, this is the problem


used both places to inject, see pics attached
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Old 05-08-2013, 09:09 PM
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The HFS4 can be triggered by boost and set to on/off mode. You have just wasted your money on a mechanical pressure switch?
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:46 AM
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I tried that just to make sure the system works, i had already that boost switch.

Seems i have found the biggest problem :

I just untightened the bypass screw on the pump and now IAT is dropping 10-15C, sometimes even bellow ambient temps, i think this was the problem... now i have to fine tune it, still getting rich but car is not bogging like before, maybe a bit less meth and maybe a bit later will do the job.

I would inject mostly by boost (P/I-R almost all the way to the left) but in the IDC and PWM mode, if this will be difficult i will switch to MPS/PWM and the last chance will be MPS/SSG and add later on all failsafes, i will still run with DFS on for now
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Old 08-08-2013, 12:26 AM
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if i switch to mps the amber led is always on and system is injecting all the time,any ideas ?

i tried different thres, gain, p/i-r setttings but no luck.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:07 PM
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There is something very wrong on this.

Can you measure the voltage at test point 17 relative to ground (bottom left of the test points)
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