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Old 24-08-2012, 10:16 PM
Mazda Carnage Mazda Carnage is offline
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Default Element Hydramist universal instal

I purchased a used Element Hydramist kit under some false pretenses, sold as everything included just needs tank, works independently...

The kits is missing the Tank hookup, the jets/sprayers and Y fitting for the jets.
I made a tank and a fitting, still have to source the jets and a 4mmY fitting for the jets.

I have read and downloaded all kinds of info on the Hydramist and Aquamist with DDS3 v8 junction board but still have questions:

Can I run the Element Hydramist off a SDS (simple digital system) EIC (Electronic injector controller), it uses a map sensor and rpm signals to engage two extra injectors (Low impedance) at a set boost, it's controller has threshold (at what boost it comes on) and gain (sets the amount of fuel injected). Does the impedance of the injector signal used matter as a trigger?
I realize tuning will require more work, changing the injector gain would effect the entire hydrasmist set-up and would involve lowering the injector gain and increasing the hydramist trip adjust until the right combination is found.

About the Fail safe for manual boost controller set-up, I am using a Tial external waste gate, all waste gates function the same but the tial uses a different boost controller set up, the waste gate hoses go like this:

. . . . . . . . . . . . ______(MBC)___|(T)_____Top fitting on waste gate
Turbo__________|(T)____________________W aste gate actuator

The MBC is a straight through valve it bleeds off the extra boost desired and sends it to a fitting on the top of the waste gate to help balance the exhaust pressure pushing on the waste gate valve and maintain increased boost.

I planed on install a second bleed style boost controller, use the first one to set default (fail safe) boost and the second one to increase boost while the water/meth injection is on.
Using the standard control valve Mac/Clippard valve in the instructions

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __________________________
. . . . . . . . . . . . ______(MBC)___|(T)_|___Top fitting on waste gate.|
Turbo__________|(T)____________________W aste gate actuator. . . .|
. . . . . . . . . . . . . .(T)|__(Solenoid)__|(T). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|___(MBC). . . .|(Fitting capped off). . . . . . . .|
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|_________________________________|

I have searched for and wonder if you know off a straight through pneumatic control valve, 12V opened --- 0V shut or are they reversible ?
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . _________________________
. . . . . . . . . . . . ______(MBC)___|(T)__|__Top fitting on waste gate |
Turbo__________|(T)____________________W aste gate actuator. . . |
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
. . . . . . . . . . . .Solenoid valve (default/opened, Fail safe/closed). . . .|
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .MBC (boost to be added with water/meth). .|
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .|___________________________________|

Last edited by Mazda Carnage; 02-09-2012 at 04:39 AM.
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