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ian spark 22-05-2012 10:16 PM

Wiring issue
 
I am trying to install this system in my car. It's an 06 Subaru sti but im having some issues. I have everything hooked up according to the wiring diagram but it doesn't seem to be getting a single from the injector. Do you have any idea what might be causing this?
Thanks
Ian Spark

Richard L 23-05-2012 12:36 AM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Does the green led blink on the controller?

Do you have a digital voltmeter?

ian spark 23-05-2012 01:12 AM

Re: Wiring issue
 
The green led does not blink. I can probably track down a volt meter.

Richard L 23-05-2012 08:16 AM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Once you have the voltmeter, please let me have the readings on the following test points of the controller:

TP5, 8, 23

Black probe on ground pin (bottom left)

ian spark 24-05-2012 02:33 AM

Re: Wiring issue
 
I checked the test

ian spark 24-05-2012 02:34 AM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Points you said and they were no5 13.76v no8 13.76v no23 13.7v

Richard L 24-05-2012 08:15 AM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Looks good so far.

The next step.

Please tell me what you see on pin 5 and pin 8 when you blip the throttle.

ian spark 24-05-2012 07:28 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
When I blip the throttle the voltage drops about the same for both of them

Richard L 25-05-2012 07:38 AM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Pin 5 should be quite steady when blipping the throttle. Check the red wire of the grey harness is connected to a steady/fixed/switched 12V source.

ian spark 25-05-2012 03:47 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
I had a look at it and it is connected to the most steady source I can find it moves around about .05v when I blip the throttle is that good enough

Richard L 25-05-2012 05:35 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Test point 8, the voltage should drop considerable more.

Where did you spice in the the green wire of the grey harness?

ian spark 25-05-2012 06:38 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
K I think I have my problem figured out I was using the Wrx wiring diagram not the sti one so I will try hookoing it up that way tomorrow and see if that works better.

Richard L 25-05-2012 07:47 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
please update.

ian spark 27-05-2012 04:35 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
K I redid the wiring with the right wiring diagram the system seems to be working perfectly now. Thanks for all your help

Richard L 27-05-2012 08:27 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Great news, thanks for the update.

It did puzzled me for a while.

bulldogface 23-10-2013 01:44 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Hi there, I have similar problem, so I ran diagnostic on points you suggested, and while TP5 and 8 are getting ca12.3V with engine off/14.4 engine on, point 23 won't give more than 0.25V.. At this point I am sure some contact is wrong, just have no idea which, and cannot find pin description anywhere. Just to complete info, I am running first test described in the manual, w/out FAV, etc connected, and I am getting no reaction from system at all.

Richard L 23-10-2013 06:27 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
can you measure the voltage on the 5A fuse. Both side.

bulldogface 23-10-2013 07:40 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
0.26V, both sides.

Richard L 23-10-2013 08:10 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Check the red wire of the power connector (4-way molex type), there should be 12V there.

bulldogface 23-10-2013 08:19 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
11.16V with engine off.

Richard L 23-10-2013 08:36 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
with the engine on?

bulldogface 23-10-2013 08:44 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
14.21V with engine on

Richard L 23-10-2013 08:59 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Was the molex plugged into the H3 during the measurement?

bulldogface 23-10-2013 09:05 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
yes. red into switched 12v, white and black separately grounded, purple wire is not used.

Richard L 23-10-2013 09:09 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Lets go a bit further, check the soldering on each pin of the fuse holder. The one nearest the edge of the board is directed linked to the red molex cable. It should have a 12V there. Also check the soldering quality of the molex connector.

bulldogface 23-10-2013 09:39 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
visually, all soldering is ok. on coonection pin solder point for red wire to control module voltage drops to ca 8.8V. on fuses, measured at solder points from bottom side of circuit board i've got 0.25V both sides.

Richard L 23-10-2013 09:43 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Unplug all harness except the molex.

Can you measure the voltage between the red wire and the 5A fuse, either side.

Richard L 23-10-2013 09:47 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
One more question, what colour is the circuit board?

bulldogface 23-10-2013 09:53 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
board is dark red, it is v3 control unit. running to car to measure.

Richard L 23-10-2013 09:58 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
I would take the circuit board out of the car and do it in front of the computer with a meter. you don't need to plug it into the molex.

Richard L 23-10-2013 10:07 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Make a "resistance" measurement between 1&2, 2&3

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS3/PCB/12v.gif

bulldogface 23-10-2013 10:14 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
is seems like there isn't any connection between, reading is zero, and connection test between red pin and either of fuse pins is negative.

bulldogface 23-10-2013 10:18 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
just ran test of suggested points with two meters. between 1 and two, zero. between two and three, 6.6 ohms..

Richard L 23-10-2013 10:19 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
with the circuit board off the car, we can examine the copper tract easier. Do make the above measurements and I will make another picture meanwhile.

Richard L 23-10-2013 10:38 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
It is strange to see 6.6ohm between 2&3. Follow the copper track run, it should be continuous. Examine it closely.

http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS3/PCB/L1+2.gif

Richard L 23-10-2013 10:52 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
It appears the red track is broken. (2&3)

Blue track ...... circuit board bottom
Red track ........ circuit board top.

Richard L 23-10-2013 11:04 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/HFS3/PCB/L1+2a.gif

bulldogface 23-10-2013 11:17 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
seems like there is tiniest of circuit bubles, plus some black residue around the first solder point of capacitor, going thru hole. tried to make a pics of it, but i am not sure they're going to help...[IMG]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByJ...it?usp=sharing[/IMG]

bulldogface 23-10-2013 11:18 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
part between capacitor and fuse is nice and clean.

Richard L 23-10-2013 11:26 PM

Re: Wiring issue
 
Can't see the image. Post it to richard AT aquamist.co.uk

It looks like there was a spark created some time ago where the black is. Hence burn out the track.

If you can solder a bridging wire between 2&3, it should work normally after the repair.


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